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Changes in the concept of 'truth' during the 20th century

I.

Classically, in realist philosophy the World was considered to be embedded in an absolute framework of space and time within which all events and objects have their place. Religious people referred to this framework as the 'thoughts of God', scientists involved it in their theories as the invisible aether and philosophers searched for it as the 'ultimate truth'. Each sentence could be judged true or false based on the correspondence of its meaning with this absolute framework, commonly referred to as the 'real world'.

Even though already Plato pointed out that all absolutes exist in a realm beyond human experience, it was not until the 20th century, that the consequences of this begun to be fully appreciated. During this century what we perceive as 'true' changed dramatically bringing unprecedented revolutions to most areas of human life. In science the relaxation of the rigid materialistic framework allowed for new and radical ways of thinking including Einstein's relativity theory and Heisenberg's paradoxical uncertainty principle in quantum mechanics. These developments changed the way physicists think of the world allowing them to ponder the existence of multiple universes and the role of consciousness in creating reality, etc. In religion the 20th century brought about ecumenism, an interfaith dialog never before possible. Morals became more relativistic, people more understanding and equal, politics more democratic and philosophy post-modern.

It would be impossible to judge, whether the changes in the definition of truth were causes or consequences of these processes, but it is nevertheless interesting to try following the concept's evolution and this will be the topic of my essay.

 

II.

Throughout the centuries, ever since the Renaissance, a battle existed between the empiricists and rationalists about who has the proper means for investigating the truth about the world and the soul. The battle was largely unresolved, because the latter group failed to provide satisfactory explanations of the physical world, while the former could not deal with metaphysical questions. It was in the 19th century, when empirical science begun to produce advances in technology that people, in awe of modernity begun to believe that the proper way of investigating reality was found. With the development of the scientific method however it was beginning to become clear that there is a whole class of metaphysical problems, which it could not resolve. Science could explain the orbits of planets, predict the trajectory of projectiles and even begin to answer questions about the origin of man, but it could not deal with something as obvious as the existence of God. At the turn of the 20th century it became clear that the empiricists' definition of truth as correlation of theory with experiment needed to be changed or extended.

 

III.

One of the attempts to reconcile science and metaphysics was the Pragmatic method devised by William James and Charles S. Pierce. This method assumed that if all empirical results of two different theories were identical, then both were equally true. This is a straight forward logical assumption, which could be used to resolve purely verbose and insubstantial quarrels, but James interpreted it differently. He used the pragmatic method in a way opposite to Occam's law of parsimony. James was a man with a 'will to believe' and he used the pragmatic method not to skeptically discriminate against unfounded theory, but rather to promote a new definition of truth. James assumed that if all evidence presented is equal, the theory one chooses to believe should be the most beneficial one. He went further, suggesting that the most beneficial theory is the true one.

It is not a coincidence that the Pragmatic definition of truth was developed in the United States of America, and that it became so popular there. That country, which strongly believes in the regulatory mechanisms of democracy and the free market, naturally accepted a new means of 'natural selection of ideas'. For the Pragmatist truth was an entity which evolves and the force which drives its evolution is its pragmatic value, the ability to make people happy. Since people pursue happiness, they will accept such beliefs which are most beneficial for them (and thus the most true).

The pragmatic philosophy makes no reference to an absolute test of truth, and thus anything can be considered true as long as it does not contradict empirical facts. This notion applied itself well in the culturally diverse United States. James assumed that different groups of people could hold their own beliefs as true, which would allow them to coexist peacefully.

This idea was later picked up by Postmodernists, who defined truth as consensus, but rejected any discriminatory tests or comparisons of belief systems. To the postmodernists truth was a pluralistic and individualistic notion. Their idea was to arrive at truth through a coherence of all theories, which everyone could agree with.

There is a difference however between the pragmatic definition of truth and the radical postmodernists "consensus definition". While neither defines truth through reference to an absolute, the former is relativistic, while the latter pluralistic. The pragmatists' truth evolves and changes with time and understanding of the world, the 'consensus truth' may vary between groups but is more static.

Practical applications of both notions prove problematic. The ever-changing pragmatic truth offers no firm basis for formulating moral judgments. If it is beneficial for me to believe that a certain law is wrong, I may break it without guilt. In fact the term 'pragmatist' in English language is used to describe a person, who willingly alters their principles in order to achieve desired results.

'Consensus truth' faces the problem of arriving at an agreement in the first place. This requires institutionalized consensus building, of which democracy is an example. Unfortunately not all problems lend themselves to legislative processes, especially in secular states. Also, we have not yet developed global institution able to arrive at and execute compromise solutions to disagreements. These problems can lead to religious conflict and supremacy of certain powerful states over others, conducted by people who are opposed to fundamentalism and dictatorship.

 

IV.

Many philosophers, scientist, and logicians found themselves on the other end of the spectrum in the discussion of truth. They could not accept truth as a relative product of one's fancy and insisted that there exists an absolute framework of time, space and logic, which they aim to discover. The truth for them exists independently of man, and the quest for it is an ever-more-exact approximation of this absolute by means of testable theories. We may point here to Bertrand Russell, who advocated the philosophy of logical analysis and claimed that the role of a philosopher was a "disinterested search for truth".

These materialists rejected problems of metaphysics as unscientific and refused to investigate them. They also rejected all non-empirical forms of "higher" or pre-given knowledge. Their ultimate goal was to construct a system of theories, able to explain all phenomena, which would be based on pure logic and not be based on any dogma or axioms, other then those empirically obtained.

It is clear that what guides such investigation is a belief that the world is based on an absolute framework, which is complete, rational, non self-contradictory. Furthermore this framework is to be based on a logic, which man can comprehend. In other words it is based on the assumption that God is a logician, or as Einstein said, that God does not "play dice with the Universe".

My question however is such: do we have reason to believe that God, or the Universe follows our human logic?

There is no doubt that science in the 20th century made remarkable progress. The developments in physics, chemistry and biology allowed development of technologies, unimaginable a hundred years ago. Yet upon close scrutiny, we find a world of contradictions and paradoxes.

Perhaps the most convincing definition of truth in accordance with the demands of logical analysis was given by Alfred Tarski. At first glance his definition is simple: "a sentence is true if it is satisfied by all objects, and false otherwise". However there is no way of investigating any property of an infinite set of objects, so any general sentence cannot be proven to be true. Tarski writes: "the notion of truth never coincides with that of provability, for all provable sentences are true, but there are true sentences which are not provable". Tarski's full theory is complex, but it does conform with the laws of logic. There is a problem however, because the statement "is true" belongs to a different language (a metalanguage) then the sentence it describes. Is this only a problem of semantics?

The logician Kurt Gˆdel, on whose work Tarski based his theory, delivered a spectacular blow to the philosophy of logical analysis. He proved that no logical system can be complete. He proved that in all logical systems there will be true sentences for which no logical proof can be given, without extending the set of axioms. If the world around us really is based on logic, then it may contain questions essentially unanswerable.

Current developments in the field of quantum mechanics bring further questions. The nature of the world seems to defy logic and be filled with paradoxes. Can particles really exist in all possible places at once? Does a conscious observer really create reality? Is it possible that there are infinite universes parallel to ours? These paradoxical questions cannot be answered within the confines of our current understanding of logic.

The final argument against truth in materialistic empiricism was refined by Sir Karl Popper. He established the most convincing presentation of the scientific method given so far and concluded that science does not lead to truth, because it cannot give any proof of it's theories. Deductive logic can only produce hypothesis and science can only progress on the basis of falsifying invalid ones. Popper states that even if we did arrive at the final truth, we would have no way of knowing that we did.

The above presents, on three different levels, reasons to doubt that empirical materialism is the way to find truth. Some of these problems may be technical, some may be resolved by a redefinition of our logic, some may be due to fundamental limitations of human cognition. It is interesting to ponder, however how strong the trust in the materialistic absolute framework remains. It is the myth of modernity, which remains with us, because we wish it to be true. We need it because evidence-based logical analysis gives us our only tool for rejecting false beliefs and unsubstantiated dogma. Yet it remains largely unnoticed that the assumption that the world is a rational, logical system, which can be modeled by mathematics is yet another axiom of this philosophy.

There is another problem. If we believe that the world will provide us with the truth, we end up desperately trying to find answers out there, instead of looking for them in here ñ within ourselves. This brings us to the final philosophy I wish to discuss, namely Integralism of Ken Wilber.

 

V.

Wilber's philosophy is also based on a belief in an absolute system, but his absolute is not limited to the external world and also exists inside each of us. In fact, he describes four different validity claims, four ways to seek truth, all of which "are correct, falsifiable within their own domain". He does not deny science or empiricism, he embraces them, but says they can only provide answers to questions of the external physical world. This approach suffers from the fundamental doubts already described, but Wilber extends the search for truth into other spheres.

Our inner subjective experiences cannot be objectified by reference to external realities, so another system is devised. According to Wilber, psychological development is an evolution of ever-wider reaching, less self-centered consciousness, with the final aim of arriving at a universe-centric consciousness of Spirit. Referring to this model Wilber explains the sources of psychological problems, as arising from misunderstandings, or mistakes committed at any level of this development. The validity-claim here is truthfulness, and problems arise from self-deception. The role of a psychologist is to help people understand their inner evolution and aid them in overcoming obstacles they may have stumbled upon.

The third sphere Wilber deals with is the domain of our inter-subjective, cultural interaction. He also objectifies this domain by reference to his evolution of global conscious model. His initial stance is postmodern ñ he claims that all myths and beliefs are equally valid, as long as they do not run into conflict with each other. If conflict arises and there is a need for judgment, he referees to the criterion of world-centrism in deciding which stance is better. Wilber wishes for a world in which ego-centric or ethno-centric motivation will be marginal, while global decisions will be made according to the needs of the whole world, by globally-aware men.

The very brief outline of Wilber's stance on truth and the criteria for judging it (the scientific method on one hand, the global-centric selflessness on the other) gives but a glimpse of his philosophical model. Integral philosophy manages to combine science with mythologies and gives us a criterion for moral judgments. In this sense it goes further then any of the other theories mentioned in this text. However, by replacing the set of logical and materialistic axioms with those of the journey-towards-Spirit, it may go further then most people of the Western cultures are willing to follow. Nevertheless it is a fascinating philosophy, which should not be shunned because of it's axioms.

 

VI.

All philosophies contain axioms, even the most materialistic and logic-based ones assume the existence of a rational universe. There is no way to construct a belief system without axioms and so I do not believe that a final and absolute definition of truth will ever be formed. It is interesting however that the matter continues to give so much thought to intellectuals throughout the world. We must be idealistic by nature...

On my way again...

There I go again... moving to another place.
In fact I'm going back, back home, but it still feels more like leaving then like coming.

I hate moving, because it seems that every time I seem to find my place, I have to leave.

Don't get me wrong, I love travelling and living in different places, it's just the process of moving that I find annoying.

I will be travelling a little to sweeten things up. I will be in Sweden, Germany, and then finally home.

The next time I write it will be from Poland :)

Cheers,

Mike

Words...

It's good to know many words, but is a large vocabulary really necessary to think, or be creative? The answer of course, is no. Computers every day demonstrate that all we can say can easily be digitized into a string of 0s and 1s, thus proving that any larger dictionary is superfluous.
But in order to use the information contained in ones and zeros, we need would need a very fast brain. Just imagine how much time it would take you to translate bits into bytes, look up the corresponding letter values of each byte in an ASCII table, put the letters together into words, the words into sentences, and finally the sentences into a meaning. Even for a every short text it would take minutes maybe hours. We can't claim that it is the fault of the code, because even the human-optimized Morse code is not that much faster.

Words are useful for human communication, because they can quickly and accurately express complex concepts. I am no psychologist, but in my opinion there is a correspondence between words and concepts. Each word carries with it a meaning, which is a subjective abstract, filled with emotional and circumstantial connotations. Call it a meme if you like.

Every concept is originally non-verbal. If this was not true, then new concepts could not arise, because we would lack words to describe them. The concept-building process could not even begin. After the first non-verbal instinct, we dress the concepts into words and arrange the words into sentences with the use of a logic. Thus prepared a concept is ready to be passed onto others, and if they pick it up, it attains a life of its own, a memetic existence.

But in order to become fully functional, most memes need names and these names are the words which we use. They are very important, because after the initial explanation of concepts such as ?solipsism?, it becomes much more efficient to use this name rather then the longer description in conversations or in thinking.

Words play a role of a function, or sub-routine in a computer program. The part of the program which is often used is placed in a subroutine, which is called every time a specific action is required instead of writing all the instructions over again. All programmers know that this is the way to make your programs more ordered and the only way to write truly complex applications.

Taking the analogy even further, we can talk about code-reuse and libraries of functions used by many programs. Such libraries are like the words used by people, especially people who specialize in something. When you are a philosopher, you (should) know the ideas of others, because then you can incorporate them into your own mental construction.

Throughout the ages the concept-libraries have grown up to great sizes. Thus, today we have many building blocks to use when constructing our worldviews... how fortunate we are! We should not pass up this opportunity to acquire as many concepts as possible.

I hereby call on anyone: give me a word! If you know of a word which describes a useful new (non redundant) concept, in anything from philosophy to cooking, then let me know.

Do Portugalii

w ramach roku pelnego podrozy, jade wlasnie do Portugalii...
moze uda mi sie zlapac jeszcze odrobine slonca, bo lato nawet tu w Hiszpanii zdaje sie zmierzac ku koncowi...

pozdrawiam kazdego, kto przeczyta te notke...
zostaw mi prosze jakis znak w komentarzu, zebym wiedzial, ze sa jeszcze ludzie, ktorych moja osoba insteresuje wystarczajaco, zeby wejsc na ta strone.

ostatnio poczulem sie troche oszukany przez los, przez innych, przez samego siebie... okazalo sie, ze na ludziach mozna sie zawiesc, ze w Hiszpanii trzeba uwazac na to co sie mowi i ze natura ludzka jest raczej podla...
'istna paranoja!', wiec odmawiam wierzyc w powyzsze tezy... ludzie, na ktorych sie zawiodlem oficjalnie przestaja istniec, a ja ide chwile posiedziec nad odwiecznym oceanem...

caluje was w nos, do zobaczenia za kilka dni

miki

Back in blog

Since you’re reading this, I must have written it. That means that after quite a long time I decided to write in my blog again... Does that mean I’m back? And back from where you might ask. Well, whether I’m back or not, let me explain where I was.

I disappear sometimes. It is a need stronger then me and resisting it is a futile misunderstanding. When I disappear I do not go anywhere. I am still here and you can see me, talk to me... I listen and appreciate your words, but I don’t talk. I am in another world – locked deep inside myself.

The reasons for my disappearances are various – from the most prosaic, like an interesting problem at work, to the more profound.

Only my best friends have gotten accustomed to this strange behavior, which can last from a few days to a few months. Others, some of whom are equally important to me take my silence as a personal insult. They seem to believe I am just not talking to Them. This builds walls of mistrust between them and me and can be very damaging...

I understand your mistrust, but I hope you will understand me.

My personal Cosmology

Don?t tell any physicists, but I believe cosmology to be a pseudo-science, at most a meta-science. To me it is an art of extrapolating current scientific theories to the extremes of time and space. Its goal is to create a model by which to answer the most fundamental questions about why we?re here and where are we going.

As with all art, I believe that the criterion of aesthetic beauty should be an important consideration when judging cosmological theories. It will certainly prove a more practical criterion then empirical testability (sic!).

Thus motivated and without being to particular about current physical theories, I hereby present my personal version of cosmology.




Our observations lead us to believe that the Universe is expanding in all directions. We assume that it has always done so, ever since its very beginning.

The Universe begun in a single point, an anomaly with no dimensions except infinite energy. This single point exploded, giving rise to both space and time with their 4 (11, 12?) dimensions, and perhaps innumerable parallel universes (if you like the Many Worlds interpretation).
The universe thus has a limited age and size. It is only as old as the time elapsed since the great explosion (?Big Bang? seems somehow unfitting) and it is only as large as a sphere of light travelling outwards from the anomaly. It is pointless to ask what lies beyond this perimeter, because space as we know it does not exist there. It only becomes as our universe grows.

As the universe expanded and cooled, matter solidified from the omnipresent energy. The energy fuelled random quantum fluctuations, which gave rise to elementary particles. These later combined to form more complex structures such as protons, neutrons and finally Hydrogen.

Hydrogen atoms started a random dance driven only by gravity. They formed denser clouds, which compressed into stars. The stars are furnaces which turned the hydrogen clay into all of the heavier elements. It is true that we are made of stars, each atom in our bodies once burned in one of them.

The heavier atoms from exploding stars were gathered by gravity and rolled into planets. Some of the planets gave rise to life and thus here we are, you and me ? an incredible end to an incredible scenario.

But what happens now? Where are we going?
According to my model, we are taking part in a great universal deceleration. If there is enough matter in the universe, gravity will someday put an end to its expansion. Then the universe will start pulling itself back towards its ancient centre.

I believe that, when this happens all laws of physics will reverse, and in one moment time will start flowing backwards. If we were alive at that moment, we wouldn?t even notice it. Suddenly we would find ourselves on the other side of the universe?s great temporal mirror. Our lives and actions would be exactly the same with one difference ? time would flow backwards. Thus I assume that we exist in two times, on the opposite sides of forever. Both now and then we live as we do, and we are both equally real.

Try to imagine what I just described. The universe starts in a point, which then expands into a gigantic sphere. At one point the sphere ceases to expand and starts to compress back towards its origin.
If you substitute time for one spatial dimension, you will again see a sphere, only this time it will have two exactly symmetrical halves. We are in each of the halves, living twice with opposite time arrows.

Beyond the Big Crunch
What happens when the universe compresses back to the anomaly? The anomaly has no dimensions, and thus is absolutely uniform and void of any information. When it explodes anew, it may create another universe on the other side of the Big Crunch. This universe is a fresh start, no history will repeat itself exactly, it is a new entity. Another great sphere on the other side of the anomaly.

Now, just to add another aesthetic element ? let me assume that time has more then one dimension. Let me assume that it is not a straight line composed of opposing vectors (--><----><--)
I do not claim any of this to be true, but it very well may be.

watermelon

'in my next life, i think i will be a watermelon'



Rozmowy z Gaja: Biologia w Kulturze

Gaja (0:01)
moze mi dzis powiesz co to jest biologia molekularna
Mike (0:03)
okay
Mike (0:03)
ale zrobie to po swojemu, zaczynajac od fizyki
Mike (0:04)
wspolczesna fizyka to najwieksze osiagniecie nauki.
od innych nauk rozni sie tym, ze kazda hipoteza (model) podszyty jest formalizmem matematycznym
Gaja (0:04)
formalizmem matematycznym?
Mike (0:05)
ten formalizm (czyt. rownania) opisuje jak jedne zmienne wplywaja na inne
Mike (0:05)
interpretacja tego formalizmu jest tym co wspolczesny czlowiek nazywa swiatem fizycznym
Gaja (0:05)
aha
Gaja (0:07)
i co dalej?
Mike (0:07)
innymi slowy swiat fizyczny jest tylko zbiorem rownan i hipotez, ktore pozwalaja na przewidywanie tego co nastapi w danym momencie (przyszlosci!), co daje mozliwosc rozwoju technologii (np. komputerow)
Mike (0:08)
to co chce podkreslic, to fakt, ze obiekty fizyki atomowej i subatomowej to w gruncie rzeczy rownania matematyczne
Mike (0:09)
najlepiej widac to w fizyce kwantowej, ktora wywoluje rozne paradoksy (atom moze byc np. w kilku miejscach na raz)
Mike (0:09)
ale to inna historia
Mike (0:09)
przyjmijmy za punkt wyjsciowy atom
Gaja (0:09)
ok
Mike (0:10)
co to atom? jadro (naladowane dodatnio) i elektrony (naladowane ujemnie)
Gaja (0:10)
no tak to jest proste
Gaja (0:10)
:)
Mike (0:11)
elektrony "lataja" dookola jadra (tak naprawde sa w superpozycji wszystkich mozliwych stanow -- elektron jest "rozmyty" dookola jadra)
Gaja (0:11)
superpozycja?
Mike (0:12)
superpozycja -- kiedy cos jest w kilku miejscach (stanach) na raz
Mike (0:12)
albo gdy nie mozemy wiedziec w ktorym jest stanie
Mike (0:12)
niektore stany atomu sa uprzywilejowane
Mike (0:12)
np. jadro wodoru "chce", zeby towarzyszyl mu jeden elektron
Mike (0:13)
wiecej sie nie utrzyma, a mniej spowoduje przyciaganie elektronow
Gaja (0:13)
logiczne
Mike (0:14)
im bardziej zlozony atom tym ma wiecej elektronow, ktore ukladaja sie w rozne konstrukcje (zwane orbitalami)
Mike (0:14)
czasem jakiemus atomowi brakuje kilku elektronow, ale w poblizu znajduje sie inny atom, ktory ma nadmiar kilku atomow...
Mike (0:15)
w takich warunkach moze zajsc "reakcja chemiczna", czyli polaczenie tych atomow w taki sposob, zeby kazdy mial optymalna dla siebie ilosc elektronow
Mike (0:15)
i powstaje czasteczka chemiczna
Mike (0:16)
czasteczki chemiczne sa przerozne, od bardzo prostych np. tlen (2 atomy), woda (3 atomy), az po mega czasteczki (miliony atomow)
Mike (0:16)
wieksze czasteczki powstaja z syntezy (polaczenia) mniejszych
Mike (0:17)
np. DNA : http://www.accessexcellence.org/AB/GG/dna_molecule.html
Mike (0:18)
sklada sie z prostego cukru, zasady (bases) i grupy fosroranowej (phosphate, 4 atomy)
Mike (0:18)
widzisz to?
Gaja (0:18)
ok
Mike (0:19)
biologia molekularna to biologia molekul, czyli czasteczek
Mike (0:19)
wlasciwie to juz nie biologia, bardziej chemia, a nawet fizyka
Mike (0:20)
wiec dlaczego biologia?
Mike (0:21)
ano dlatego, ze zajmuje sie czasteczkami ktore zwiazane sa z procesami odpwiedzialnymi ze zycie na poziomie komorkowym
Mike (0:22)
te czasteczki to glownie DNA i bialka
Mike (0:22)
zacznijmy od DNA
Mike (0:22)
DNA to makroczasteczka, ktora jest polimerem nukleotydow
Mike (0:23)
zreszta zobacz:
">http://www.accessexcellence.org/AB/GG/nucleotide2.html
Mike (0:26)
jak widzisz nukleotydy (na dole w prostokacie z podpisem Nucleic Acid)
Gaja (0:26)
:)
Mike (0:26)
ulozone sa w lancuch, a wlasciwie 2 lancuchy
Mike (0:27)
te dwa lancuchy sa do siebie "komplementarne"... zobacz, ze zasady zawsze wystepuja parami A=T G-C
Mike (0:27)
widzisz to?
Gaja (0:28)
tak
Mike (0:28)
a tu masz kiepski rysynek tego jak to sie uklada w 3 wymiarach:
">http://www.accessexcellence.org/AB/GG/structure.html

Gaja (0:29)
fajne
Mike (0:30)
a tu masz lepsze:
http://images.google.com/images?q=double+helix&num=50&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&safe=off&sa=N&tab=wi
Gaja (0:31)
ten jest niezly: ">http://www.sacredlight.to/images/double.jpg
Mike (0:33)
to przyklad jak silnie symboliczny jest ten model
Mike (0:33)
podwojna helisa pojawia sie w sztuce juz od Dalego
Gaja (0:33)
oooo
Gaja (0:33)
podoba mi sie ten watek!
Gaja (0:34)
gdzie mozna cos takiego znalezc?
Mike (0:34)
szukam
Mike (0:41)
Galacidalacidesoxyribonucleicacid, 1963
Mike (0:41)
ciezko zapamietac
Gaja (0:41)
oja
Mike (0:42)
http://dali.karelia.ru/images/works/1963_02.jpg
http://dali.karelia.ru/images/works/1963_02.jpg
Gaja (0:42)
co on jadl do jasnej?!
Gaja (0:42)
ze mial takie pomysly?
Mike (0:43)
widzisz obraz?
Mike (0:43)
widzisz DNA?
Gaja (0:43)
czy to jest to zapisane na kawalku pergaminu?
Mike (0:44)
to tytul
Mike (0:44)
czyli Gala-desoxy-ribose-nucleic-acid (DNA Gali)
Gaja (0:44)
widze ludkow co do siebie strzelaja
Mike (0:44)
ludki to cukry
Gaja (0:44)
i jakies kropeczki
Mike (0:44)
a kropki to podwojna helisa
Mike (0:45)
ludki i kropki i bog trzymajacy nazwe DNA
Mike (0:46)
np. kolejny obraz
Mike (0:47)
Desoxyribonucleic Acid Arabs, circa 1963
Mike (0:47)
http://dali.karelia.ru/images/works/1963_06.jpg
http://dali.karelia.ru/images/works/1963_06.jpg
Gaja (0:47)
a powiedz mi
Gaja (0:47)
po co sie maluje dna?
Mike (0:47)
a po co sie maluje jezusa?
Mike (0:47)
albo jakis tam swietych
Gaja (0:47)
to chyba jasne
Gaja (0:48)
czyli istnieje kult dna?
Mike (0:48)
mozesz to tak ujac... ale nie ma podloza religijnego... chodzi o kult jakim otaczamy nauke (prawie religiny)
Gaja (0:48)
dlaczego nauka jest otaczana kultem?
Mike (0:49)
apropos nauki mam dla ciebie cytat z eseju, ktory wlasnie powoli pisze:
Science is not all academia and another of its important aspects is popular science. This is the science of everyday, the scientific background of the layman, a very important aspect of our secular lives. Unfortunately people world over seem to have resigned themselves to the 'conferring mode' in this field. Science is considered too hard to understand and people are happy to accept it in the form of bite-sized chunks served as "scientific discoveries" by non-scientific media. This leads to a very alarming and ironic situation. Science, considered by many to be the undoing of religion, becomes under these circumstances equally dogmatic. Without an understanding 'scientific facts' become accepted without question, whether they come form genuine or dubious research. From there it is just one step to rejecting scientific claims and holding evolution and creationism as equally credible.
Gaja (0:51)
skoro malujemy dna, ze wzgledu na kult nauki, to powiedz mi czego symbolem jest dna?
Gaja (0:51)
co ono symbolizuje..czy sa jakies glebsze tresci w wygladzie, budowie dna?
Gaja (0:52)
tzn ze jak nauka jest niezrozumiala to staje sie obiektem kultu?
Mike (0:53)
nauka staje sie obiektem kultu, dzieki technologii
Gaja (0:53)
jakto?
Mike (0:54)
co powoduje, ze mozemy "rozmawiac" mimo iz jestesmy na dwu koncach Europy? Co powiduje, ze mozemy latac, ze mozemy leczyc choroby, zyc dluzej, ogladac telewizje?
Mike (0:55)
Technologia, czyli nauka w zyciu...
Gaja (0:55)
aha..
Mike (0:55)
i daje nam wiecej "mocy" niz kazda religia dotychczas
Mike (0:55)
dlatego ja czcimy... a DNA symbolizuje nasza kontrole nad zyciem jako takim
Gaja (0:55)
czyli nauka jest otaczana kultem, gdyz technologia jaka dzieki niej istnieje ma zastosowanie w codziennym zyciu?
Mike (0:56)
si
Mike (0:56)
mamy moc boska, mozemy tworzyc zycie wg. wlasnego planu i uznania
Gaja (0:56)
DNA symbolizuje nasza kontrole nad zyciem jako takim
Gaja (0:56)
a czy dna nie symbolizuje jakies ambiwalencji zycia?
Gaja (0:56)
wiesz,patrzac na jego ksztalt..
Gaja (0:56)
podwojna helisa...
Mike (0:57)
interpretacji kazdego dziela jest tyle ile jego odbiorcow
Gaja (0:57)
i ze tak naprawde to ludzie i wszystko wokol to tylko efekt polaczenia czasteczek?
Mike (0:58)
jestem przeciwnikiem mowienia: DNA symbolizuje to i to... dla mnie symbolizuje tak duzo, ze slowami tego nie obejme
Mike (0:58)
"i ze tak naprawde to ludzie i wszystko wokol to tylko efekt polaczenia czasteczek" -- bardzo ciekawie...
Mike (0:59)
ale chodzi o to jakim silnym DNA jest symbolem
Mike (0:59)
a dlaczego? ze wzgledu na to na co nam pozwala: odkryc sekrety zycia i manipulowac nimi
Gaja (1:00)
czy uwazasz ze odkrycie dna, jego wygladu i budowy zmienilo myslenie o swiecie?
Gaja (1:00)
ale nie chodzi mi tu o funkcje jaka pelni dna
Gaja (1:00)
tylko sama budowa, zlozonosc
Mike (1:00)
czy pytasz sie, co by bylo gdyby dna nie bylo takie piekne?
Gaja (1:00)
tak
Mike (1:01)
nie byloby tak silnym symbolem -- nikt by go nie malowal i nie rzezbil
Mike (1:01)
np. bialek nikt nie maluje
Mike (1:01)
ale wrocmy do biologii molekularnej, bo trzeba to DNA umiescic w jakims kontekscie
Mike (1:05)
DNA to czasteczka, ktora przenosi informacje genetyczna
Gaja (1:05)
zgadza sie
Mike (1:05)
te cztery litery: ACGT, czyli zasady, ktore widzialas... si?
Mike (1:06)
to alfabet tej informacji...
Gaja (1:06)
tak
Mike (1:06)
typowy gen to np:
Mike (1:07)
4441 aaatgtcatc tatggtgatg aacatctatt atctaagcgg attacaacag ctgacatttc
4501 acgtcctggt ctagaaatga cagggtattt tgattattat gcaccagagc gtttgcaact
4561 tgttggtatg aaagagtggt catatttaat ggctatgaca ggacataatc gttatcaagt
4621 gttacgtgaa atgttccaaa aagaaacacc agctattgtt gtagcacgtg atttagaaat
4681 tccagaagag atgtatgagg cggctaaaga taccggtatt gctattcttc aaagtaaggc
4741 ccctacaagt cgtttatcag gtgaagtttc ttggtattta gattcttgct tagctgagag
4801 gacaagtgtt catggtgtct tgatggatat ctatggtatg ggtgttctga ttcaaggtga
4861 ttccggtatt ggtaagagtg agacaggact agagctagtt aagcgaggac atcgtttggt
4921 agcagatgat cgtgttgatg tttatgctaa agacgaagag acgctttggg gagagcctgc
4981 tgagatatta cgtcatttac ttgaaattag aggtgtggga atcattgata ttatgagcct
5041 atatggagct agtgcggtta aagattcatc gcaagtgcaa ttagctatat accttgaaaa
5101 ctttgaaact ggaaaagttt ttgatagact cgggaatggc aatgaagaga tcgaattatc
5161 tggagttaag gttcctcgga tacgtattcc tgttaaaaca ggccgaaacg tgtcagtagt
Gaja (1:07)
o
Mike (1:07)
najciekawsze w dzisiejsze biologii jest to, ze mamy dostep do calkowitego zapisu tej ksiegi
Mike (1:08)
w tym roku zakonczono Human Genome Project
Mike (1:08)
i wszystkie geny (cala ksiega ludzkosci) jest dostepna przez siec
Gaja (1:08)
troche to dla mnie jest abstrakcja! czy to ma jakis sens, czy jest ulozone losowo?
Mike (1:11)
tam gdzie jest ulozone losowo (junk DNA) nie ma informacji
Gaja (1:11)
ok
Mike (1:11)
a zeby bylo ciekawie junk DNA to calkiem spory procent genomu
Mike (1:12)
co sie z ta informacja dzieje?
Mike (1:12)
jest cos takiego jak Kod Genetyczny
Mike (1:13)
to slownik, wg. ktorego tlumaczy sie jezyk DNA na jezyk bialek
Gaja (1:13)
wiem, mialam to na biologii
Mike (1:13)
ale zanim do tego dojdziemy musimy odpowiedziec na pytanie czym jest bialko?
bialka to polimery aminokwasow,
ich 3wymiarowa struktura dyktowana jest sekwencja aminokwasow
Mike (1:18)
ale ich strukrura 3d jest zupelnie inna niz DNA
Mike (1:18)
DNA jest regularne i zawsze takie samo
Mike (1:18)
a kazde bialko jest inne
Gaja (1:18)
to ja wole byc bialkiem
Mike (1:19)
i to co jest w bialkach arcyfascynujace, to to, ze ich 3wymiarowa struktura (dyktowana przez ich 1wymiarowa sekwencje) pozwala im pelnic funkcje
Mike (1:19)
bialka to male narzedzia i duze maszyny w komorce...
Mike (1:20)
wszystko od nozyczek tnacych (nulkeazy), przez pompy (kanaly jonowe), az po elektrownie (syntaza ATP)
Mike (1:26)
tu masz animacje elektrowni:
Mike (1:26)
http://www.cnr.berkeley.edu/~hongwang/Project/ATP_synthase/
Mike (1:27)
bialka powstaja w oparciu o informacje zawarta w DNA
Gaja (1:28)
a czy wszystko tak nie powstaje?
Mike (1:28)
specjalne bialka zajmuja sie tlumaczeniem (translacja) DNA na bialko
Mike (1:28)
nie, tylko bialka, a one zajmuja sie produkcja innych rzeczy
Gaja (1:29)
czyli posrednio dna uczestniczy w tworzeniu wszystkiego co tworzy bialko
Mike (1:30)
no tak... DNA zawiera cala informacje, bialka odpowiedzialne sa za dzialanie
Gaja (1:30)
zgadza sie!
Mike (1:30)
i ostanie zagadnienie, ktore chcialem poruszyc: Kod genetyczny
http://psyche.uthct.edu/shaun/SBlack/geneticd.html
Gaja (1:32)
ooo
Mike (1:33)
no wiec z tym kodem
Mike (1:33)
DNA: 4 litery
Mike (1:34)
ale sa tam slowa
Mike (1:34)
kazde slowo to kojelne 3 litery
Mike (1:34)
ktore oznaczaja jakis aminokwas
Gaja (1:34)
te glu gly itp....
Mike (1:34)
np. TTT oznacza Phe (fenyloalanine)
Mike (1:35)
a AGT oznacza Ser (Serine)
Gaja (1:35)
ok
Mike (1:36)
i to tez jest dosc istotne, artysci to wykozystuja np. do komponowania muzyki
Gaja (1:36)
?
Mike (1:36)
tak
Gaja (1:36)
no co ty?
Gaja (1:36)
jak?!
Mike (1:36)
zobacz:
http://www.dnamusiccentral.com/
Mike (1:40)
no i jak?
Gaja (1:40)
wow
Gaja (1:41)
pluskanie wody i bebenki
Mike (1:41)
:)
Gaja (1:41)
ale jaki to ma zwiazek z chromosomami?
Mike (1:41)
nuty to zapis ludzkiego kodu genetycznego
Mike (1:41)
czyli ATGCTCATAGTCTAGCGATC zamenione w muzyke
Gaja (1:42)
wow
Mike (1:43)
no to mam nadzieje, ze juz wiesz cos o tym jaki zwiazek ma biologia molekularna z kultura
Gaja (1:43)
jasne
Gaja (1:43)
ale z ta muzyka to niezly szok
Gaja (1:44)
musze sobie o tym dokladnie poczytac

What's in a name? That

"What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other word would smell as sweet."




When I was living in England recently, the people there insisted on calling me Michal, even though I introduced myself as Mike. I wanted to be called Mike for the simple reason that it is much simple to pronounce for the English, while Michal was continualy mispronounced, despite honest efforts.
They insisted however that Mike is not my 'real name' and continued using something which sounded a little like 'Mikal', apparently much more authentic.

But a name cannot be real or unreal. It is an abstract concept, a grouping of letters used to indicate a person. Obviously it is not that person, it is not real, it is a symbol.

And every symbol can exist on more then one level of abstraction. To me, my name is not the word I heard this morning, it is not the letters or sounds in Michal, Mike, Miguel, Michelle or Michail.

All these are physical representations of the name, the word 'micah' which is the question: 'who is like God?'

And that in turn is presents me and all the other Michaels of the world, a group united by a unique vagueness of a question :)




I am who I am, I am not my atributes. I am not my name, I am not my possessions, I am not my achievements, faults, appearences. I am not my body, I am not my strengths or weaknesses. I am not my attributes.

But without attributes, what remains? If I am not what you can percieve, then I am nothing. I do not exist. Can I percieve myself? No. I am not who I am.
I am who I become. I am a process.




It is not important to me who you say you are. It is not important what you have or what you do. What is important to me is what you think about.

The flow of your thoughts is a river on which we can flow together to lands unknown.
What can be more intimate?

And more abstract? More unreal?




"Do you listen to anybody? You do not; you listen only to yourself. When you leave the sense of hearing alone, all that is there is the vibration of the sound -- the words repeat themselves inside of you, as in an echo chamber. This sense is functioning in just the same way with you, except that you think the words you are hearing come from outside of you. Get this straight: You can never hear one word from anyone else, no matter how intimately you think you are in relationship with that person; you hear only your own translations, always. They are all your words you are hearing."
- U. G. Krishnamurti

Piatek wieczor

Piatek wieczor, wracam do domu.
Sasiad, Niemiec mowi impreza.
Pozniej impreza, picie, jacys kolesie z Argentyny
Przyszli niemcy, palenie -- dobry hasz
Przyszli jacys hiszpanie.
Impreza na miescie, dobra muza, fajny klub...
Trzecia rano -- spac!, bo...

Osma rano -- Cholera, za pol godziny autobus do Toledo
Oczywiscie ucieka.
Wreszcie Toledo, brzuch boli, kac...
Cholera, gdzie sa lazienki?
Pierwszy kibel -- nie ma deski,
drugi tez nie, trzeci... tez.

W nastepnym babka konczy myc podloge.
Wychodzi, ja wchodze, ona za mna
i po hiszpansku: Po co tu wchodzisz?
Ja po angielsku, glosem kogos kto bardzo potrzebuje kawy:
Chcialem sprawdzic czy jest deska...
Ona po hiszpansku wyrzuca mnie ze swiezo umytego kibla,
kwitujac sytuacje soczystym: Choler!

Babo, nie ma co sie denerwowac.
Zachowujesz sie jakbys byla odpowiedzialna za cos bardzo waznego.
To tylko kibel.
Nawet nie wiesz co jest naprawde istotne,
a dzis w metrze mowili...
Pierwsza wiadomosc: W Bagdadzie znowu otworzyli zoo.




Jade w dol ku codziennosci
gdy w oddali slysze skrzypka
Nuty Vivaldiego
na pieciolinii schodow ruchomych
pobrzmiewaja metalicznym skrzypem wspolczesnosci
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